Comments on: Incongruities of Continuity: Looking at the New Star Trek Movie’s Time Travel Foibles http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/ News, reviews, and updates on Science Fiction and Fantasy television plus a review of the best and worst of the genre. Also including reviews and articles on Science Fiction and Fantasy relating movies, books, comics, games, etc. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:17:29 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Sam Christopher http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-930 Sam Christopher Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:15:35 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-930 Tom- When Spock used the Red Matter in the future to create a singularity out of the supernova that destroyed Romulus, first the Narada and then Spock's ship were sucked through and sent back in time. For some reason Nero ended up 25 years earlier in the past than Spock and had to wait for him (the oddities of time travel are many and variegated). Ambassador Spock explained all this to Kirk through the mind-meld in the film. Notice I didn't say it made sense but if we're going to accept time travel through a blcak hole in the first place and a supernova that can destroy the entire galaxy... (In all fairness to Alan Dean Foster, this last is one of the things he fixed in the novelization; he just made it a supernova that threatened to destroy Romulus) Sam Tom- When Spock used the Red Matter in the future to create a singularity out of the supernova that destroyed Romulus, first the Narada and then Spock’s ship were sucked through and sent back in time. For some reason Nero ended up 25 years earlier in the past than Spock and had to wait for him (the oddities of time travel are many and variegated). Ambassador Spock explained all this to Kirk through the mind-meld in the film. Notice I didn’t say it made sense but if we’re going to accept time travel through a blcak hole in the first place and a supernova that can destroy the entire galaxy… (In all fairness to Alan Dean Foster, this last is one of the things he fixed in the novelization; he just made it a supernova that threatened to destroy Romulus)

Sam

]]> By: Tom http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-920 Tom Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:10:05 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-920 What is the explanation for how they went back in time? I missed that. Was it an accident or something they figured out? How did Nero and Spock go back to the same place and time (25 years apart)? What is the explanation for how they went back in time? I missed that. Was it an accident or something they figured out? How did Nero and Spock go back to the same place and time (25 years apart)?

]]> By: paulswhite http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-918 paulswhite Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:54:06 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-918 Oops. Thanks for the heads-up and we have corrected that. Oops. Thanks for the heads-up and we have corrected that.

]]> By: Grammar Nazi http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-914 Grammar Nazi Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:43:15 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-914 It's canon, not cannon. One is a story element, the other fires explosive shells. It’s canon, not cannon. One is a story element, the other fires explosive shells.

]]> By: Jordan Lund http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-913 Jordan Lund Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:56:21 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-913 This is what sequels are for. Star Trek 2 - Nimoy is still trapped in the past so Shatner comes back in time to rescue him. They realize that if they just go back a little further they can stop Nero from destroying Vulcan and team up with the kids of the new timeline to get it done. In the process Old Kirk and Old Spock are both killed, but the timeline is restored and Vulcan is saved. This is what sequels are for.

Star Trek 2 – Nimoy is still trapped in the past so Shatner comes back in time to rescue him. They realize that if they just go back a little further they can stop Nero from destroying Vulcan and team up with the kids of the new timeline to get it done.

In the process Old Kirk and Old Spock are both killed, but the timeline is restored and Vulcan is saved.

]]> By: Nick http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/st-time-travel/#comment-911 Nick Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:53:42 +0000 http://axiomsedge.wordpress.com/?p=1688#comment-911 Excellent point, John. I think they managed to get away with it by saying that technically history hasn't been changed but an alternate timeline was created. In other words, Spock Prime's reality, the future that he came from, was still there. The only change is that now we have an alternate universe out there where Vulcan was destroyed etc. (like the Mirror Universe). But they should have explained this better and clarified why this didn't change Spock Prime's future. Maybe that's an explanation they'll explore as part of the sequel? Excellent point, John. I think they managed to get away with it by saying that technically history hasn’t been changed but an alternate timeline was created. In other words, Spock Prime’s reality, the future that he came from, was still there. The only change is that now we have an alternate universe out there where Vulcan was destroyed etc. (like the Mirror Universe). But they should have explained this better and clarified why this didn’t change Spock Prime’s future. Maybe that’s an explanation they’ll explore as part of the sequel?

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